Pete Zahut

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  Well I spilled it to the elders (elder)

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

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  an elder came over for a visit the other night (he couldn't get a partner) personally i consider him a friend and have revieiled many things to him an figured the tie has come to step out of this religion slowly.. well i finally told him i have no believe in the bible (other then the confirmed history in it) or god.

  i did it slowly and tactfully and even non-agressive.. his response to learning i believe in evolution was that evolution doesn't happen now i respectfully disagreed and pointed out lactose and alcohol tolerance among the last thousand years as well as tibetian lung/hearts.

  he refused to believe it.

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  But I firmly explained at this point I would not drag my wife down. He knows I support her no matter what she chooses

  Drag your wife down where? Do you mean drag her down to your low level of existence as a non JW?
  
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  I COLLECT QUOTES. . . Here are some of my favorites

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  please post your favorites too.

  my favorite quotations:.

  you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.. don’t think of cost.

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  I had a fortune cookie that said"

  Pay premium price the first time.....cry only once.
  
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  Lost on how to respond...

  by babygirl30 in

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  so an old friend of mine from the congregation hit me up today.

  the story goes like this when we were jw's:.

  - this guy used to be madly in love with me but i didn't see him as anything more than a friend.

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  Seriously take that into consideration. No matter what you have done Jehovah has the ability to forgive you.

  Dear ____, It never ceases to amaze me how mere humans such as yourself continually make assumptions about the spirituality of their fellow man. They believe they have the authority to interpret and judge the status of other peoples relationship with their heavenly father and assume they are unaware or have forgotten about the forgiveness he offers to us all. Some even go as far as to insinuate that others are in need of an extra measure of his forgiveness .

  Thanks for your misdirected concern and once again, I send my condolences to you and your family.
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  Rework of the JW Childrens project to coerce them into giving more.

  by notjustyet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i tool the jw image and edited it so that it would look like it was made by the catholics to .

  entice their children to give their money to the catholic church.. if you have any jws that have not seen the original yet, give this to them and let them paint themselves into a corner slamming the catholics for stooping so low and then let them in on the fact that it originated with the jws.. .

  [img]http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/scummydross/502016201_e_cnt_1_zpsy5xwrs3f.jpg[/img].

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  Since they are "captives of the concept" that Jehovah is directing the Governing Body of JW's, they'd simply say that teaching children to give money to fund and support the organizations projects IS the same as teaching them to be generous to our heavenly father.

  To them, this example is not comparing apples to apples. They view Catholics as part of Babylon the Great and anyone supporting them (even children) are supporting Satan, therefore when JW's ask for money....it's ok. When Catholics ask for money....it's not.
  
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  Lady drives car into Kingdom Hall

  by Sugar Shane in

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  2. scandals

  right smack into (what looks like) the front entry!.

  http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-13/78yo-female-driver-crash-jehovahs-witnesses-church/7243268.

  this was in australia, but the khs i've seen (in the us) are designed so that you'd have to almost intentionally want to ram a building to cause this kind of damage.

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  Was there partaking of "emblems", involved in either of these crashes ?
  
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  Did any of us ever enjoy meetings?

  by stephanie61092 in

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  2. experiences

  this is a legitimate question.

  did any of us ever find real joy in being at the meetings?

  did any of us ever finish a meeting and think "i feel so enriched"?

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  I never enjoyed the meetings the way others claimed to, however I believed I should enjoy them and felt guilty for it.
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  jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!

  by Ghiagirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well it finally happened!

  we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.

  even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.

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  Maybe you could suggest to your husband that although you are all for helping family, you'd first like to see them complete a JW style,six month probationary period where they demonstrate by their actions towards the two of you, that they are worthy of your help.
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  its the begining

  by pepperheart in

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  its the begining of the end for the jws in place of the 200 and 300 page books that they have on the trolleys they had some of the old editions of the watchtower and awake so they have gone from 300 page books to 16 page tracts.why havent they replaced the books with new ones it couldnt be that they are short of money lol

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  The printing era of the WBTS is nearing it's end. It's all about electronic and broadcasts from now on. That's why all the layoffs and selling-off of properties.

  Seems that way to me as well but I'm puzzled as to why, if this is so, they need that huge new complex in New York with all it's residence quarters. Why do they still need so many people there ??

  Even when I was a Bethelite decades ago, it seemed like most of the people who were at Bethel, were there to support the staff at Bethel and to maintain the buildings they need for them to live in. It's as if they've created a way for others to support them in their fantasy world rather than have to go out and take care of themselves.
  
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  Jehovah's Witness Teens 13 and 10 Commit Suicide in Wisconsin

  by Tenacious in

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  i found the following story while researching the jw mindset and subsequent behavior due to their weekly exposure to mind control techniques.

  the story is a bit old but it does speak volumes in terms of the mental anguish the average jw teen must endure as a jw.

  links to website and original newspaper follow:.

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  Just when you think you've heard it all.....

  Anyone who has ever attended or visited a Kingdom Hall in a remote area can understand how this could happen.

  Locked into an isolated life that revolves around a controlling "end time's" religion headed by poorly educated narrow minded men, must be a living hell for the women and young people who are at their mercy. A married man who doesn't fit or like his circumstances can pick up and leave if he decides to. A married Woman and her children would be stuck in a life that they might not survive or ever recover from, especially if the husband liked the control and power that was granted to him by his religion and thereby God.
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  its the begining

  by pepperheart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its the begining of the end for the jws in place of the 200 and 300 page books that they have on the trolleys they had some of the old editions of the watchtower and awake so they have gone from 300 page books to 16 page tracts.why havent they replaced the books with new ones it couldnt be that they are short of money lol

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  The trolleys haven't been around that long, did they have the larger books on them in the beginning?

  If so, it could be that they found that people aren't as likely to take a book in passing but might be inclined to grab a brochure....not as much of a commitment. Also the brochures are lighter for the person wielding the cart around and they are more to the point and specific and people may be more inclined to read them at a glance rather than put them aside as one might do with a book. They could be saving the books for later if and when they are truly interested.